Tiger Woods Chart

[Ken]

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│阳马辅辰廉碎台贵空│军神煞喜空伤　　　│机刑池阁　　　　　│微府钺星福使　　　│
│旺平　　　　　　　│庙　　　　　　　　│陷　　　　　　　　│旺得庙陷　　　　　│
│　　　　　　　　　│　　　　　　　　　│禄　　　　　　　　│科　　　　　　　　│
│病符　　　　　　　│大耗　　　　　　　│伏兵　　　　　　　│官府　　　　　　　│
│丧门　86－95　　绝│贯索　76－85　　墓│官符　66－75　　死│小耗　56－65　　病│
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│曲羊官空才　　　　│盘类：天盘　火六局　子斗在丑　身宫在亥│阴星虚座　　　　　│
│庙庙　　　　　　　│阳历：1975年12月30日22时生　　命主巨门│旺得　　　　　　　│
│　　　　　　　　　│农历：乙卯年11月28日亥时生　　身主天同│忌　　　　　　　　│
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│晦气　　　　　　胎│　　　大溪水　霹雳火　钗钏金　屋上土　│大耗　46－55　　衰│
│攀鞍　田宅宫　庚辰│　　　正财　　枭神　　日主　　正官　　│灾煞　★财帛　乙酉│
├─────────┤乾造：乙卯　　戊子　　庚戌　　丁亥　　├─────────┤
│天文禄天　　　　　│　　　乙正财　癸伤官　辛劫财　壬食神　│贪地天　　　　　　│
│同曲存哭　　　　　│　　　　　　　　　　　丁正官　甲偏财　│狼劫月　　　　　　│
│平旺庙　　　　　　│　　　　　　　　　　　戊枭神　　　　　│庙平　　　　　　　│
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│飞廉　　　　　　　│　丁亥 丙戌 乙酉 甲申 癸未 壬午 辛巳  │力士　　　　　　　│
│岁建　　　　　　养│　正官 七杀 正财 偏财 伤官 食神 劫财  │龙德　36－45　帝旺│
│将星　福德宫　己卯│　1983 1993 2003 2013 2023 2033 2043  │天煞　子女宫　丙戌│
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│七左陀天天　　　　│天封寡恩　　　　　│廉天右天地红　　　│巨文天　　　　　　│
│杀辅罗巫寿　　　　│梁诰宿光　　　　　│贞相弼魁空鸾　　　│门昌姚　　　　　　│
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│奏书　　　　　　　│将军　　　　　　　│小耗　　　　　　　│青龙　　　　　　　│
│病符　　　　　长生│吊客　06－15　沐浴│天德　16－25　冠带│白虎　26－35　临官│
│亡神　父母宫　戊寅│月煞　★命宫　己丑│咸池　兄弟宫　戊子│指背　身◆夫　丁亥│
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I am sure by now most of us would have been aware of the saga revolving around Tiger Woods.  What struck me is that there seems to be 2 ideologically opposite camps of people in their assessment of Woods' sexual trysts with many women as a married man.  On the opposing camp, they view Woods as an outright marriage cheat who deserves no pity while the other camp feels that given his superstar and ultra rich status, which sees to many women throwing themselves at him, it is understandable that he had strayed.Out of curiosity, I just wanted to see if he deserves the pity from an astrology point of view.  Astrology does not seek to exonerate anyone of his wrong doing but more importantly to assess if he is a victim of circumstances or immoral perpetrator.  His birth date is listed as 30 December 1975 and hour is listed as 22:50 hrs.  To be sure that these information are really representative of him, I did a quick check of the publicly known events to happen to him so far and it does jive with the 30 Dec 1975, 22:50 hrs birth chart.

In Bazi perspective, Woods is a weak Daymaster with plentiful wealth elements and is duly strengthened and positioned to overcome wealth in the current luck pillar.  By the way, in Bazi, Wealth represents money as well as woman to male Daymaster.  It is small wonder that he amassed so much wealth and bedded so many women.  Another case of Excessive Wealth weakens a Weak Daymaster? In Bazi, a weak Daymaster rides more on luck than on his own doing.

Now's let switch over  to using Zi Wei Dou Shu ("ZWDS") to assess Woods.  He has a Tian Liang Transformed Authority Star in his ZWDS Destiny Palace.  A Transformed Authority Star usually represents capability and it is small wonder that he did so well in golf.  But does that also mean his trysts are borned out of his capability?

It is interesting to note that this capability was bestowed on him by the general public, if we use ZWDS to assess the source of this capability.  In addition, his Romance Palace shoots stars into his Karma, Travel Marriage Palaces.  This can be construed as the women throwing themselves at his feet.

The number 1 Romance star, Tan Lang is found in his Romance Palace.

[xun]

Hi Ken,

Now's let switch over  to using Zi Wei Dou Shu ("ZWDS") to assess Woods.  He has a Tian Liang Transformed Authority Star in his ZWDS Destiny Palace.  A Transformed Authority Star usually represents capability and it is small wonder that he did so well in golf.  But does that also mean his trysts are borned out of his capability?

I hope you can attach a good picture of Tiger Wood chart. Your chart look messy. 
If I'm not wrong about your statement, you want to say, Quan at Destiny Palace means : dominating, power, aggresive, control etc.

Regards,

xun

[Ken]

HI xun,

Welcome back!

The mandarin characters is only meant for me to read especially since this is English forum.

There is server space constraint so we cannot post pictures.

Let's hear your analysis of Tiger Woods chart, we would be interested to here.

[xun]

Hi Ken,

You are very economical in using words to explaint Mr Woods chart.
Are you want to say Mr Woods, career can be seen from Quan at Destiny Palace ?

Regards,

xun

[Ken]

Hi xun,

It is my habit to make things short and simple.  Too much information and when the user cannot process it efficiently only results in the user getting confused.

Some people like to predict one's actual career from career palace while others read from the destiny palace.  In certain cases, even the wealth or health palace can fulfill this requirement as well.  It may sound far fetch to one but it really is not.

Let's just say I do not believe it is always right to read from the career palace on such an occasion.  Our loyal member, Slayer can vouch for this in that he have posted his experience about the career palace does not appropriately paint what his or family's destiny can do.

But of course, this also depends on the ziwei methodology one is using.  Let's hear your view about the chart then.

[xun]

Hi Ken,

I vote for that also, when you used San He.  It will be different when you used Si Hua, 18 Flying stars.
I always love to read your reading on ZWDS, specially to this case. I believe, Mr Woods talent is not coming from Quan itself. How about the main star in his Destiny palace ?

How about his Career palace ? Sibling - Friend lines ? or other ?

Maybe you are right, too much information will make others getting confused.

Regards,

xun

[Ken]

Hi Xun,

Now that you know Si Hua, why don't you share your reading using Si Hua?  If you use Si Hua to read his chart, I agree it will also show a very good career prospects but his pitfall is with woman and wife.  Obviously he had more issues with his wife than John Terry had with his wife. 

It is a misconception that San He cannot be applied together with Si Hua. 

In any case, when I talk about the Quan in Destiny, I am mindful of the fact that most people in the market use San He, I do not want to write something that others do not understand.

[xun]

Hi Ken,

"Short and simple". I try to follow your style.
If I'm not wrong Quan is refer to authority/power/aggressiveness/demanding. It is not about fame or talent.

Do you mind to elaborate your Quan in Mr Woods chart ?

Regards,

xun

[Ken]

Hi Xun,

There's actually more than just authority than just the name of "authority" confers.  I don't know if your source of materials indicate that.  But Quan also means capability.  I have actually shared something about his chart in my earlier reply, was hoping to see some from you so that the discussion can be 2 way.

What I can see is, he is immensely popular and he has an addiction.

[xun]

Hi Ken,

If not wrong Quan also mean achievement. Maybe a bit different with capability.
I'm just trying to make our discussion short and simple so other will not confuse.

There are many things we can discuss from Mr Woods chart, and I'm trying to focus on your topic, his talent, achievement, capability and fame.

Any others perspective when you said Quan means capability ? Is it because just Quan ?

Regards,

xun

[Ken]

Hi Xun,

Yes, Quan can mean achievement although it is not strictly that.  Achievement would usually be a combination of capability and good luck.  Hence, I see that as a product of Quan but not on a 1-1 basis because there still needs to be good luck.  I still view capability as the more correct description of Quan rather than achievement there are many capable people who does not have achievements in their curriculum vitae.

Since you are focusing on his talent, achievement, capability and fame, where in the chart do you see these as coming from?

[xun]

Hi Ken,

Do you mind to elaborate more about Quan ? It can be bring confusion, when you said Quan represent capability.
Capability mean talent or the quality of being capable.

Usually Quan represent power/authority. It also mean a strong will or demanding character.

Let quote your statement, "A Transformed Authority Star usually represents capability and it is small wonder that he did so well in golf." This statement can be mean, Mr Woods career and great talent come from "just Quan".
Because you give 2 example of very talented person in this planet, maybe I catch your statement wrongly. I get Quan as a good talent and of course Mr Woods and John Terry need a good luck to become a very famous person in their field.

It is not an ordinary capability, maybe we can said extraordinary.

So, the interesting part is achivement = capability and good luck. How about capability ? Is it a luck/destiny ?
Or what ?

Please guide to your Quan. Than we can go futher ...

Regards,

xun

[Ken]

Hi Xun,

Talent is different from capability in the strictest sense.  Talent is like the intrinsic or innate form while capability is like the performance aspect of it.  Granted you may think that the 2 examples use indicate talent more than capability because it is customary to describe sportsman as talented rather than capable.  But this is strictly not consistent with the English meanings of these words.

I think you are reading my postings without considering the context with which it was made.  You assume I cover all grounds/reasonings before making a statement in a blog article/internet posting.  I will do so if I am teaching my students.  But because now I am doing it just for fun reading, I do not see the need to.  What I did is find the most easy-to-understand chart observation and bring it out to illustration while there are another few observations that are not brought up yet considered.  In summary, you are right, there are a couple of other observations that led me to making this conclusion on top of the only one I shared.  Only with my students, do I have a responsibility to explain all the rest of the other observations.

About the achievement part, it is culmination of destiny (Heaven Luck)+Earth Luck+Man's action.

As for the Quan part, you need to know the difference between the various types of Quan so that we can discuss further.  Which types do you know so far?

[xun]

Hi Ken,

Hi Xun,

Talent is like the intrinsic or innate form while capability is like the performance aspect of it.

Perhaps you can give another example of capability. Hope you want to elaborate more to make this topic become clear.
Although our discussion is very short but I still get a confusion on what your really want to tell about Quan.

About the achievement part, it is culmination of destiny (Heaven Luck)+Earth Luck+Man's action.

I agree with you.

Regards,

xun

[Ken]

Hi Ken,

Hi Xun,

Talent is like the intrinsic or innate form while capability is like the performance aspect of it.

Perhaps you can give another example of capability. Hope you want to elaborate more to make this topic become clear.

I was just trying to tell you that most dictionaries define talent as something bequeathed by nature and it includes therefore the intrinsic, non-visible aspects of it.  In my opinion, capable ascribes to a situation whereby one's ability has been assessed and therefore not likely to be non-visible.  This is not related to ZWDS so far. 

Talent can be reflected anywhere within a ZWDS chart while capability is most reflected by Quan Transformation star or a few other stars.   

Although our discussion is very short but I still get a confusion on what your really want to tell about Quan.

The logic is that Quan can represent a character of being authoritative or a sign of being assigned the authority.  In the latter case, it is mostly observed that capable people are assigned the authority.  Of course one may argue that some incapable people are also conferred authority.  That is in real life but not in ZWDS context.  If you still have confusion, perhaps you may like to take ZWDS lessons from me.