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« on: January 15, 2009, 10:28:40 AM »

Hello all,

I'm wondering if I can have some advice for 2009.  At the end of 2008, I felt it was more difficult than before, in terms of feelings and I have to motivate myself very hard to concentrate. I have a feeling 2009 will not be any better. Luckily, I have been able to control myself better upon encounter with Chinese metaphysics. It's like a medicine for me, just by reading posts in this forum.

This semester, I'm taking two classes. It's kind of scary because I have to work in groups and participate in class discussions. I feel I was born not that intelligent and kind of slow. I cannot even pick a good time to talk or raise my question. and thus makes me feel ignored sometimes. Most of the people in one of the classes already worked for some time, and they returned to school to do their masters in the technology management program. Perhaps I shouldn't challenge myself to take this class. It makes me feel even more not confident. Somehow, the topic interests me and it's very different from other classes I took before, and I would like to see if I could overcome my fears.

I posted here a while ago, and I know I should not think about love, but study well. So, I guess I should not have any hope about it. Sometimes, I cannot help but wonder if it is really so bad and I only attract people who will not last. My biggest regret is that I cannot fix my mistake and make it up to the same person. I'm sorry, just feel kind of hopeless overall.

Any advice are welcome and thank you in advance Smiley. Here is my birth info again: Sep 14, 1982, 12.15 pm. Place: Indonesia, longitude: 99.05


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« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2009, 04:05:31 PM »

Perhaps I should not think too much and ask the questions above. Although I'm scared of the classes, I still have to take them in order to graduate. I can easily change to other courses, but will it make a big difference? Whatever we choose, nothing is easy, there's always a trade off. I just hope the classes turn out to be useful and I learn a lot at the end.

As for love, it is always good to feel loved again. Yi jing just gave me hexagram 15 - modesty, I guess I have to endure the pain and accept the reality as it is. Transformed hexagram, 52 - the mountain is perhaps telling me to let go of the past, not think too much about future but focus on now.

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« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2009, 08:27:18 PM »

Hi leecarrot

Based on your chart, you are intelligent just that you are not the quick-learner type. But once you learned, you will have doubled the results.

Wood element is absent from your chart which denotes that you will have difficulty on branching out your endeavour such as business expansion, career development, etc

Wu-Zi Clash appears in natal chart and 2003-2012 luck cycle.
This clash results in lack of peace, instability and ups & downs during the period. Such instability involves work, location and relationships. One may also experience many changes, constant movement or health issues.

Gui Water or Ren Water can be your Favourable God. You can try out more activities that requires talking, communicating, speech, presentation, and outdoor activity at your study and work.

The reason that I don't use Ding Fire as your Useful God is because Useful God does not like to be hurt. Your Ding Fire is being hurt by the Gui Water next to it. So, I suggest to use Water as Favourable God.

During 2003-2012 luck cycle and your Hour Branch is also a Wu-Wu Self-Punishment. It is related to your career and husband (if any) kind of punishment. This punishment denotes one already knows that one’s habit or behavioral characteristics which negative, but yet continues to act or behave in the detrimental fashion. And this behavior results in an eventual negative outcome. This is a Punishment where one self-sabotage one’s self.

In 2009, you will find difficulty on decision-making. Perhaps, I always suggest friends to plan for 2009 when we were still in 2008. In 2009, is not an ideal year for you to make any big decision for life. Since you have Yi Jing knowledge, I suggest you use Yi Jing to help on decision-making.

I am unable to tell you if it is good for you to continue the same study or to change to the other one. Yi Jing can give you the best answer on this.
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« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2009, 01:51:20 PM »

Hi Icly77,

Thanks a lot for taking time to go through my chart and for the advice. I'm glad that it revealed some aspects that was not so clear to me before. As I'm not such a quick learner, there's still hope but I have to work hard and prepare myself better.

A few quick questions:

- Am I also a Geng DM? (I tried a Bazi calculator a while ago.) You have described some of its characteristics in the other posts. I will be happy to have such characteristic that supports hard working. But I hope I'm not among 9 out of 10 that is lazy  =).

- Is music also related to Gui/Ren Water? When I have free time, I like to play piano for myself. I just love it even though I don't know much.

-  I'm already 26, but first thing first, finish study and work...I shouldn't put too much hope on love. I'm just curious if  my chart indicates any hope on this matter. I don't mind waiting, as long as it is the right person. If not, at least I can focus on other areas.


For this year, not many decisions have to be made except that I will need to choose a supervisor and topic for my thesis before the end of April. But it may not be easy. I quit my topic last June, and it should not happen again. I will keep in mind your advice. I started Yi Jing less than a month ago, using online Yi Jing based on Wilhelm's book and sometimes refer to the book by Alfred Huang. It is sufficient to give me daily guidance. But I think for more important question, I will have to post it in the divination section.

Thanks very much again for the advice. I really appreciate it Smiley.
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« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2009, 02:20:41 PM »


-  I'm already 26, but first thing first, finish study and work...I shouldn't put too much hope on love. I'm just curious if  my chart indicates any hope on this matter. I don't mind waiting, as long as it is the right person. If not, at least I can focus on other areas.

Perhaps I should indicate that I'm still single. Only have one relationship so far, but it didn't work out. He lost interests and we lost contact after he met somebody else. But it is also my fault, I was too dependent and perhaps not giving him enough trust at the beginning.

Thanks again and good day =)).
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« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2009, 08:37:41 PM »

Hi leecarrot

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Am I also a Geng DM?
Yes, you are.

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I will be happy to have such characteristic that supports hard working. But I hope I'm not among 9 out of 10 that is lazy.
It says that Geng Metal need to go through hardship in order to success. If you are hardworking type or the 10th Geng, it will be great!

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Is music also related to Gui/Ren Water?
I read Joey Yap's book and came across musician is Metal, if not mistaken. But some says it is Water some says it is Earth coz related to tempo is Earth. I really not sure. But personally, I believe it is Metal.

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I'm already 26, but first thing first, finish study and work...I shouldn't put too much hope on love. I'm just curious if  my chart indicates any hope on this matter. I don't mind waiting, as long as it is the right person. If not, at least I can focus on other areas.
Year 2013, there is possibility.
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« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2009, 02:01:27 PM »

Hi Icly77,

Thank you very much. Your reading is accurate (especially about self-punishment, I feel it too), and you are very patient. I also like to read your posts, they are very clear, informative and nicely organized.


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I'm already 26, but first thing first, finish study and work...I shouldn't put too much hope on love. I'm just curious if  my chart indicates any hope on this matter. I don't mind waiting, as long as it is the right person. If not, at least I can focus on other areas.
Year 2013, there is possibility.

So that means 2013 it will get better. I assume anything can happen between now and 2013. I may have met the person already. If not, maybe I'll meet the person in 2013 or later Smiley.

If my Ding Fire is being hurt by Gui water next to it, is it still good to perform Fire related activities?

Ken was right too about study. Today, I just received my results from last semester, and they were much better than I thought. It seems like this is the only area that works out for me at this moment. I hope this semester I can stay motivated.

I guess that's everything I need now. If ever needed and to thank you, I'll be happy to provide more information in the case you or other members need to verify something (those not included in my questions) for learning or research purpose, although perhaps my chart is too easy and straightforward  Tongue (since I'm unable to contribute much). I will stay tuned to this forum Smiley.
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« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2009, 12:25:59 AM »

Hi leecarrot

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Thank you very much. Your reading is accurate (especially about self-punishment, I feel it too), and you are very patient. I also like to read your posts, they are very clear, informative and nicely organized.
Thanks for the compliment  Wink

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So that means 2013 it will get better. I assume anything can happen between now and 2013. I may have met the person already. If not, maybe I'll meet the person in 2013 or later
In 2014, there is another round of Wu-Wu Punishment between annual pillar and your hour pillar. Watch out of especially month June 2014.
Also there is Zi-You Destruction - This typically denotes excessive drinking, entertainment and substance abuse. It also involves relationship issues and many emotions. Possibility of a male friend taking advantage on you while you get drunk. It may cause you pregnant. As the Zi is your HO which represents children and You is RW indicate opposite sex.

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If my Ding Fire is being hurt by Gui water next to it, is it still good to perform Fire related activities?
In 2009, Wood and Fire activities are the best.

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I guess that's everything I need now. If ever needed and to thank you, I'll be happy to provide more information in the case you or other members need to verify something (those not included in my questions) for learning or research purpose, although perhaps my chart is too easy and straightforward   (since I'm unable to contribute much). I will stay tuned to this forum .
Thanks for your continuous support  Wink

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« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2009, 11:22:28 AM »

Hi Icly77,

In 2014, there is another round of Wu-Wu Punishment between annual pillar and your hour pillar. Watch out of especially month June 2014. Also there is Zi-You Destruction...

Thanks a lot Smiley, I will pay attention to these.

Bazi is another fascinating mixture of art and science. Thank you so much for posting the beginner guide to decode it. At first, I just skimmed through your article, but later I couldn't help but give it a try  =).

Can we say we have good relationship with certain people because their DMs are favorable elements to our DM? (a quick way to determine whether the person is good for us). For example, I'm a Geng metal and I just noticed the friend from junior high school is a Ding fire DM. She is a friend who left a very good impression and memory. I wish we had more affinity with each other. Till now, I'm still amazed at how fast the friendship had developed. I only have very few friends that we can count the numbers  =).

I also tried out my ex-bf chart because I'm curious whether there's something in the chart which contributes to the break-up, although I'm mostly to blame for it. Perhaps it is good for me to understand it better since I never knew what to expect before, and I can be more cautious next time.

I never asked for his birth time, but he was born March 22, 1972. From what I've seen, it's a lot of water (wet chart) already without the hour pillar. Maybe this also explains why he used to travel a lot. He may need more fire to warm up his chart.

Hour  Day    Month   Year
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                   (RW)     (Friend)   
-        Ren     Gui      Ren      (HS)
-        Zi       Mao      Zi        (EB)
-        Gui      Yi        Gui       (Hidden)

I guess he is a weak Ren water DM. In terms of location, season and support:
1. Ren water born in the month of Mao (rabbit) is Death, out of location.
2. Water is weak in the month of Spring, so out of season.
3. Cannot try without time - same element or element that produces the DM may come from the hour pillar.

His DM can be in support or not. But there are already 2 'No', so it will still fall under the weak DM... Based on the table, his favorable elements are water and metal. Although I'm a metal, still not worked out.  And the husband of a Geng metal should be a Ding Fire? He might have been the wrong person  Tongue.  Anyways, I should only look forward.
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« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2009, 04:45:43 PM »

Hi leecarrot

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His DM can be in support or not. But there are already 2 'No', so it will still fall under the weak DM... Based on the table, his favorable elements are water and metal. Although I'm a metal, still not worked out.  And the husband of a Geng metal should be a Ding Fire? He might have been the wrong person  .  Anyways, I should only look forward.

His chart is neither weak. His chart only has Wood and Water. If the time pillar also no Fire then this person has no passion. He is cold-hearted type. Don't waste your time on someone that has no passion in life.

As you can see everywhere also full of water (regardless of time). This chart is too cold so he needs Fire to warm his chart. Therefore, Fire is his Useful God. In this case, he attracts to Fire lady instead of Geng lady.
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« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2009, 11:53:13 AM »

Hi Icly77,

Yes, a fire lady will be better for him, perhaps she can even take care of him =).  I hope in his chart he has at least 1 fire to represent passion. I feel he might have one. Even though it is still sad sometimes, I still think he is a caring person and very loyal once committed. I haven't talked to him nor heard from him for a while, and I hope I can continue doing what I am doing now....trying not to contact him, I'm getting better now. Thanks also to this forum and hope from study. Otherwise, there is no place to let go and heal.

Thank you so much  Wink.
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« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2009, 08:23:33 PM »

Hi leecarrot

You are always welcome and share your thoughts  Wink
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